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Honda Elite 80

Postby tomos03 » Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:41 pm

Hi, I just got a 2006 Elite 80 with 1200 miles on it. The rear tire looked about half tread. I have ridden 300 miles and the rear tire is just about worn out. Is this normal? Is there a good replacement tire that wears better? As I was looking for an Elite to buy most pics of rear tires looked like mine does now with the 1500-2000 mile range. Any reason the tires do not last? Thanks
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Postby mountainmoped » Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:35 pm

Jeff,

What is Elite 80 going for up there--I have a chance to buy one. How many miles are they good for? What is the top speed. They can't be legally ridden in Georgia as they are over 50cc. Georgia won't register and tag anything less then 100cc so nothing from 50cc-99 cc can be legally ridden in georgia. The same applies to 50cc motorcycles with manual transmissions (MB-5, YSR, NSR, RS50, Derbi 50cc sport bike).
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Postby tomos03 » Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:07 pm

I gave 950 for mine. Most are going for more than that, more like 1400. The top speed is 45-50 on flat ground. They say they are good for 25-30k.
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Postby mopedlar » Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:55 am

I own three of them and none of them go any faster than 45 mph on flats. The most I paid for any of them was $900, and it only had 37 original miles on it. I wouldn't pay more than $1,000 for one with low miles. My 1985 model has over 6K miles on it and runs great.
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Postby tomos03 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:39 pm

Mopedlar, you maybe the one that would know the answer to my question. I just got a 2006 Elite 80 with 1200 miles on it. The rear tire looked about half tread, then I rode 300 miles and the rear tire is just about worn out. Is this normal? Is there a good replacement tire that wears better? As I was looking for an Elite to buy most pics of rear tires with the 1500-2000 mile range looked worn out also. Any reason the tires do not last? Thanks, Jeff
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Postby mopedlar » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:54 pm

Your rapid wear is definitely not normal. My '92 and '93 Honda Elites have their original OEM tires on them. One has over 3,500 miles and needs replacing and the other has less than 1,200 miles and still looks new. I replaced the rear tire on my '85 Elite at around 2,300 miles. It now has around 6,300 miles and is close to needing replacement. It is a Kenda tire. I've been told that 3K-4K miles is pretty much the life of a rear scooter tire. Overall, I'm pretty happy with Kenda scoot tires.

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Postby tomos03 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:55 pm

Mopedlar, could you tell me what Kenda tire number like K329. K313, ect. Does the tread type look like factory style? Thanks
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Postby mopedlar » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:23 pm

The tire # is K329. The tread doesn't look anything like the factory tread. It looks more like a sport bike tread.
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Postby mopedlar » Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:36 pm

I took a closer look at my OEM stock rear tire on my '93 CH80 with less than 1,200 miles on it, and the center tread is almost completely worn out. That would confirm your observation that these stock tires aren't much good after 1,500 miles on them. It's strange because my other CH80 with a stock rear tire has over 3,300 miles and it has more tread than my one with less than 1,200 miles on it. I guess it depends on what brand tire they used from the factory.
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Postby tomos03 » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:51 pm

Mopedlar, I have been doing some testing and think I know why these tires do not last. The rear tire gets hot riding just 10 miles of stop and go. I have a infered temp tester. The tires front and rear where at 81* at take off. Pavement temp was at 98*. Outside temp at 85*. Temps after riding 10 miles at 30mph were as follows. Front tire 98*, rear tire 123*, muffler on left side of rear tire 240*. After sitting for 2 minutes the left side of the tire (rotated tire 1/2 turn) was at 140*. If you are sitting at stop lights the tire would be getting hotter and hotter. This along with soft OEM tires, only 4mm tread dept new, makes the rear tire wear quick. The front tire looks like it will last 5-6K.
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re: Honda Elite 80

Postby mopedlar » Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:54 am

Just finished replacing all three rear tires on my three CH80's. This time I went with Shinko tires instead of Kendas. Shinko's have real deep treads and should last even longer than my Kenda did.

It took me about 45 minutes to remove all three rear tires (including muffler and plastics) on my scooters, and about and hour to reinstall them. My buddy own a motorcycle shop, so he mounted and balanced them for me.

If you've never replaced a rear scooter tire before, take your time and don't force the plastics off/on when removing/reinstalling them. If you force them off/on, you risk breaking off the brittle alignment tabs on the front of the rear "fenders". Also, make sure to put some grease on the rear "axle" splines before reinstalling the wheel.

If you need help, don't hesitate to ask.
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